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| dirty-devil | Jan 31 2005, 07:54 AM Post #1 |
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the power of christ compelles you !!!
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hey guys. i kind of figured out that i kind of learnt photoshop. but now i want to learn a language ? what would you say would e the most easiest langyage to start with ? |
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| Jory | Jan 31 2005, 09:15 AM Post #2 |
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html (not really programming language, but verry easy) php and javascript are not that hard. (javascript, NOT java) this is what you mean right? |
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| Ben | Jan 31 2005, 10:13 AM Post #3 |
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Indeed. If you want to start web design, (X)HTML & CSS is definitely the way to go. PHP is secondary since what it essentially does is output HTML to the page (most of the time), so it's good to know HTML before you learn PHP or JavaScript (shudder). If you want an actual programming language to make standalone programs, you can try Java, C, or C++. Java and C++ are Object-Oriented Programming Languages, Java can be used to make applets that can be embedded in websites. You can find out some more about HTML and CSS from HTML Goodies, and W3 Schools. A List Apart and CSS Zen Garden have some excellent articles, particularly when it comes to CSS. For any programming language, you can also look at TechiWarehouse, which has a large number of tutorials devoted to many languages. Java Boutique has tutorials for first-time Java coders, and Cprogramming.com is a good place to learn C and C++. Lastly, my favourite, PHP  For a vareity of tutorials and a good community, PHP Freaks is great. I also recommend the online manual called Practical PHP Programming. Although I discovered it after I had already learnt most of PHP, I still find it useful because it walks you through virtually every aspect of PHP, with easy to understand examples. 
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| Zach | Jan 31 2005, 02:23 PM Post #4 |
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And if you just want to get your head into coding, check out python.org. It's easy and it's still applicable to things outside of test codes! |
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| mflintjer | Feb 11 2005, 03:48 AM Post #5 |
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Tachyon, Thank you for the link to that on-line book!! Man what a find! I am going to read that one through, and hopefully I will be able to start making php pages that actually work. Right now, I can't even point to a database on my server. |
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| korn_mosher_4life-ZNS | Feb 11 2005, 09:07 PM Post #6 |
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com down boy! first get html under your belt, then css (unless you have already made a skin, then you know css) javascript then php [or the other way around] I think the easest programming languages are the OOP languages C++ java C# and J#. Personaly java is my favorite, tho I haven't really messed with the rest. databases are easy. but know the basics before you go into your hard stuff. It should take you a week max before you're throughing out web pages done in html and css. Then comes your hard stuff, javascript and php, (though php is a programming languages, many people like to use it for websites...should learn me some of that next. |
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| ABeakyboy | Feb 11 2005, 10:25 PM Post #7 |
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C++ is my personal favorite. Its not good for web stuff, but its what everybody uses for software you buy (or download) Im kinda new to web programming so the only things i've used in that are php used with mysql. Ive also done some javascript....its easy to figure out because its like c++. PHP, although I haven't used it much seems cool. I just cant stand that you dont specify a type for the variables tho. I hate having to worry about accidentally converting my variables to some other type than i want. (well I just started so give me a break) Everything else in php is great. |
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| Seth | Feb 11 2005, 10:28 PM Post #8 |
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Hahahha that's so great! I HATE C++ and Java because they're so strongly typed  and PHP is my favorite
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| Stefan | Feb 11 2005, 10:47 PM Post #9 |
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:o The horror! Perhaps it's just me, but I love strong typing. Don't put me near a weakly typed language, or you might end up with a huge mess... Or an even bigger mess when it's a weakly stronlgy weakly typed language. Like VB. :ph34r: In the end, you always end up with a... uhhh.... nevermind |
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| Seth | Feb 11 2005, 10:50 PM Post #10 |
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Casting  ClassCastExceptions Error: can't convert primitive type int to String Whyyyyyyyy can't it figure it out for me! *cries* |
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| Rory | Feb 11 2005, 11:00 PM Post #11 |
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(String)potato.get(1); oh yeah!! (can't actually remember if that is correct Java or not, but meh) |
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| Das | Feb 11 2005, 11:41 PM Post #12 |
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If you want an easy game progaming language try DarkBasic. It will cost you $$$ but it is worth it. |
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| ABeakyboy | Feb 12 2005, 09:50 AM Post #13 |
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Oooo see im entirely opposite. I cant stand languages where you dont have COMPLETE control of EVERYTHING. I like C++ because it lets you have complete control of all variable data stored and so on. You really should take a look at my chat program I wrote. I built it in Borland C++ builder 6 and it's my first windows c++ program. Even though its my first non-command line program, its pretty good in my opinion. I've taken multiple computer classes at the local community college, but never any non-commandline programing courses. However c++ classes are simply used for form controls in visual programs so i figured it out pretty well. Php I like cuz it works like c++. I just cant stand the auto-convert features. I like them but would rather you do something like this: int $var; string $var2; $var2 = "1234"; $var = $var2 // doesnt work $var = (int)$var2; // works Now maybe you can't do the doesnt work line already, but ive had problems with the string type being accidentally converted to an array which is annoying. In c++ id rather use the intvar = atoi(char*var); // intvar = (int)(char*var) would be nice but oh well |
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