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60th Aniversiary of VE Day, Victory In Europe
Topic Started: May 7 2005, 04:01 PM (1,009 Views)
Elphaba
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The liberation of Europe in General... :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/war/wwtwo/ved...ermany_01.shtml

May 8th, VE Day (Victory In Europe Day).... :)

In other words Hitlers Unconditional Surrender...
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~Jalba
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Wooohoooo for the liberation of Europe


Edit: NEVERMIND, I think it was wrong info
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Zero Resistance-ZNS
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Uh....yay?
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Das
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Yeah Amercia we kicked a$$. And Canada they helped too ;)

Rember the American Slogan: "If you piss us off we will invent a new way to blow you up. Don't belive us? Ask Japan to rember the A-bomb"

Mmm America the land of the high power explosives. I feel safe.
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Zero Resistance-ZNS
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I don't.
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Das Ein
May 8, 2005 02:31 AM
Yeah Amercia we kicked a$$. And Canada they helped too ;)

Rember the American Slogan: "If you piss us off we will invent a new way to blow you up. Don't belive us? Ask Japan to rember the A-bomb"

Mmm America the land of the high power explosives. I feel safe.

Yes, just forget the Europeans who'd been fighting for a couple of years before you started... :r :P
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Zero Resistance-ZNS
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Or the peopleon Asia who'd been fighting for freedom since 1600 and only got it in 1960!
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kingy
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Yeah America may have helped towards the end...but only after an attack on their own turf.

You cannot forget the thousands of British/French etc that died first. And the germans as well,
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Platyna
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Yeah, you helped to kick off nazis but sold us to Russians in Jałta. Anyway we do accept the apology.
My grandfather kicked off alot of nazi asses with a knife in the forrests of Bialystok, Wizna, Warsaw!

Regards.
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The Soviets also played a part. If they hadn't been pushing the Germans on the eastern front, The Americans, Canadians and Brits would have had a tough time defeating the germans. Dropping an A-bomb on Germany would have had a devastating effect on the whole of Europe.
I'm not praising the communists though :P .
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Platyna
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Generally Russians were defeating Germans because it was in their interest. Since Hitler attacked
Russia as well. But same as Napoleon got beaten up badly anyway that came from the interested not
being so generous to fight for other nations freedom. Also Russians always wanted to have Poland and
neighbour counties under control. You heard Putin: "The end of Soviet Union was the greatest
catastrophy of XX century.". Duh!

Regards.
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Elphaba
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Is this going to turn into a flame the Axis topic? :arr:
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kingy
May 8, 2005 05:40 AM
Yeah America may have helped towards the end...but only after an attack on their own turf.

You cannot forget the thousands of British/French etc that died first. And the germans as well,

Because at that time we tried to stay nuetral. Of course when someone attacks your own turf, what else do you do? Don't just say it's OK it probablly was an accident.

Anyway, HAPPY VE DAY! Thanks to all the Vets.
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Elphaba
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Actually we were never going to stay neutral :/ FDR knew that one time or another US was going to have to get involved, and if they did not that Germany would take over Europe and we would of had been doomed... :no:

So FDR had to think of a way to get the American Public to support a WW, and he knew that P.H. was the perfect way, we now know that FDR knew that P.H. was going to happen, but he did not focus on it because he knew that he was going to need support from the people to go to war, and Having the public think that P.H. was unknown about and unfair was just the way...

He did know about P.H.
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/pearl_harbor.htm

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On 7 December 1941 the greatest disaster in United States history occurred. Truly this was and is, “’A date which will live in infamy.’”(Costello 1), but not for the bombing of Pearl Harbor, rather for the deception and the mis-guidance used by the Government and Franklin D. Roosevelt. In a purely artificial chess game Roosevelt sacrificed over 2400 American Seamen’s lives, thanks to his power as Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces. By over-looking the obvious facts of an attack by Japan on Pearl Harbor, Roosevelt was able to control both the political and economic systems of the United States. Most of American society before the Pearl Harbor bombing believed in the idea of isolationism.

Franklin D. Roosevelt knew this, and knew the only way in which United States countrymen would take arms and fight in Europe’s War was to be an overt action against the United States by a member of the Axis Power. Roosevelt also believed Hitler would not declare war on the United States unless he knew they were beatable. There are numerous accounts of actions by Roosevelt and his top armed forces advisors, which reveal they were not only aware of an attack by Japan, but also they were planning on it, and instigating that attack. On 7 October 1940, Lieutenant Commander Arthur H. McCollum, head of the Far East desk of the Office of Naval Intelligence, wrote the eight-action memo.

This memo outlined eight different steps the United States could do that he predicted would lead to an attack by Japan on the United States. The day after this memo was giving to Franklin D. Roosevelt, he began to implement these steps. By the time that Japan finally attacked the United States at Pearl Harbor on 7 December 1941, all eight steps had occurred (Willy 1). The eight steps consisted of two main subject areas; the first being a sign of United States military preparedness and threat of attack, the second being a forceful control on Japans trade and economy. The main subject area of the eight-action memo was the sign of United States military preparedness and threat of attack. McCollum called for the United States to make arrangements with both Britain (Action A) and Holland (Action B), for the use of military facilities and acquisition of supplies in both Singapore and Indonesia.

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May 8, 2005 01:58 AM
Das Ein
May 8, 2005 02:31 AM
Yeah Amercia we kicked a$$. And Canada they helped too ;)

Rember the American Slogan: "If you piss us off we will invent a new way to blow you up. Don't belive us? Ask Japan to rember the A-bomb"

Mmm America the land of the high power explosives. I feel safe.

Yes, just forget the Europeans who'd been fighting for a couple of years before you started... :r :P

Bleh we cause more death then anyone else. We also made a big boomy and trust me I like big boomies.
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