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Installing Ubuntu...
Topic Started: May 3 2005, 11:57 AM (1,311 Views)
Francis May 3 2005, 11:57 AM Post #1
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 Sorry to bring this back up, :r but when I try and install ubuntu properly it seems to install for a while but then just goes to a black screen and nothing else happens... Can anyone help? :'(
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Lothlómendil May 3 2005, 01:35 PM Post #2
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 I don't know yet, but I will this weekend. :D

Should be as simple as sticking the CD in, partitioning some HD space and installing. :blink:
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Francis May 3 2005, 01:37 PM Post #3
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 That's what I thought. ;)

I haven't partitoned though as I thought the installer would do it for me...

What's a good program for partitioning your HD?

Sorry to be a pain... ;)
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Platyna May 3 2005, 02:17 PM Post #4
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 Not brainf*****g program to make partitions for Linux system is cfdisk. You need following partitions:
/ - root
swap
/home

You may also do yourself a /usr partition then you can make smaller root partition (by definition it
should be kept as small as possible).

All partition should be type Linux, swap should be type swap, after you will make partitions you have
to run mke2fs -j (eg. mke2fs -j /dev/hda1) on each of them and mkswap on a swap partition which will
create proper file systems.

And no...no Debian-like distribution installer will do partition for you. Anyway that a brave move to start
with Linux from Debian or Debian like distribution. ;)

Regards.
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Francis May 3 2005, 02:40 PM Post #5
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Platyna
May 3, 2005 01:17 PM
Not brainf*****g program to make partitions for Linux system is cfdisk. You need following partitions:
/ - root
swap
/home

You may also do yourself a /usr partition then you can make smaller root partition (by definition it
should be kept as small as possible).

All partition should be type Linux, swap should be type swap, after you will make partitions you have
to run mke2fs -j (eg. mke2fs -j /dev/hda1) on each of them and mkswap on a swap partition which will
create proper file systems.

And no...no Debian-like distribution installer will do partition for you. Anyway that a brave move to start
with Linux from Debian or Debian like distribution. ;)

Regards.

Thanks, but the only bit of that I really understood was the word 'Regards'. :rofl: :r
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Platyna May 3 2005, 03:29 PM Post #6
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 *Scratches her head* cfdisk, mke2fs, mkswap - those are commands you should read about a little to install Ubuntu.

Regards.
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Francis May 3 2005, 03:40 PM Post #7
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 Who would have thought installing a new OS would be so difficult... :angel:



*101 is very probably about to erase his HD by accident. :r
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Matthew May 3 2005, 04:00 PM Post #8
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 QTParted is a pretty easy program to use, to partition your hard drive. It's pretty user-friendly IMO (even though it didn't work for me - but that was because of my dodgy hard drive which had bad sectors which refuse to be fixed >_< :'(). Although you need to run it from Linux, so you need a live distro to run QTParted with (I used Knoppix)

Again, I think that's right, i'm not that sure, i'm such a Linuxnoob :angel:
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Francis May 3 2005, 04:09 PM Post #9
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Matthew
May 3, 2005 03:00 PM
QTParted is a pretty easy program to use, to partition your hard drive. It's pretty user-friendly IMO (even though it didn't work for me - but that was because of my dodgy hard drive which had bad sectors which refuse to be fixed >_<  :'(). Although you need to run it from Linux, so you need a live distro to run QTParted with (I used Knoppix)

Again, I think that's right, i'm not that sure, i'm such a Linuxnoob :angel:

So I'm going to have to use Linux to install Linux... Sounds good to me... :rory:

I need morphine... sweet morphine...
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Platyna May 3 2005, 04:55 PM Post #10
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 Qparted is a suicide, especially when you have NTFS partitions, Matthew I got alot of problems reported
by various people on my Linux help channel on IRC...
Also, I don't think so if you can fix bad sectors, maybe using some low level formatting tools, anyway
you can always fsck -c your FS to map them so they will be not used by any data on your file system.

Regards.
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Francis May 3 2005, 05:06 PM Post #11
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 Thanks for the help platyna, but I thought Ubuntu had a partition option in the installer, or maybe I'm wrong again... :seth:
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Platyna May 3 2005, 06:02 PM Post #12
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 Well, no idea. AFAIK Debian and Debian like distributions are not so newbie friendly. I know that
program that makes partitions on Debian is cfdisk or fdisk. :D Never used Ubuntu, but since it is Debian
based I would expect the same.

Regards.
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Das May 3 2005, 09:04 PM Post #13
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May 3, 2005 01:55 PM
Qparted is a suicide.

:phrank:

101
 
Thanks for the help platyna, but I thought Ubuntu had a partition option in the installer, or maybe I'm wrong again...

No you are right, just QParted is better. What part of the installation do you get a blank screen at? There could be lots of problems, so be specific of were it locks it.
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Seth May 3 2005, 09:43 PM Post #14
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*Scratches her head* cfdisk, mke2fs, mkswap - those are commands you should read about a little to install Ubuntu.
:rolleyes: The whole point of Ubuntu is that it's a friendly Debian, Platyna. It includes ntfsresize so it should handle all partitioning for you on install. 101 needs to know nothing about them.

http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24888.html << Debian can even resize NTFS at install, and Ubuntu most certainly can!
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I shrunk the default 60 GB NTFS partition that shipped with my laptop to about 30 GB, added a 20 GB FAT32 partition, then had then finished with an automated EXT3 format of the remaining 10 GB for Hoary.


Debian children and apt-get are the most powerful, flexible, easy-to-use Linux system out there.

101, drop me a PM with your AIM screen name or something. No chances of... getting bad advice that way.
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Francis May 4 2005, 03:46 AM Post #15
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May 3, 2005 08:43 PM
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*Scratches her head* cfdisk, mke2fs, mkswap - those are commands you should read about a little to install Ubuntu.
:rolleyes: The whole point of Ubuntu is that it's a friendly Debian, Platyna. It includes ntfsresize so it should handle all partitioning for you on install. 101 needs to know nothing about them.

http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24888.html << Debian can even resize NTFS at install, and Ubuntu most certainly can!
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I shrunk the default 60 GB NTFS partition that shipped with my laptop to about 30 GB, added a 20 GB FAT32 partition, then had then finished with an automated EXT3 format of the remaining 10 GB for Hoary.


Debian children and apt-get are the most powerful, flexible, easy-to-use Linux system out there.

101, drop me a PM with your AIM screen name or something. No chances of... getting bad advice that way.

Thanks Seth, you are my hero... :rofl:
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