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Topic Started: Jun 13 2005, 03:38 PM (1,309 Views)
drangonsile
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Hi I am planing on trying linux. Can you tell me which one is best by your standards? All I need to be able to do is order a CD (free is prefered) and dual boot it.
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Ubuntu :w00t:

http://shipit.ubuntulinux.org <- Free CD, free shipping

Debian children rawk.
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Ben
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I literally just installed Ubuntu Linux and already I like it. :D The default GUI, Gnome, has several differences from Windows but looks somewhat similar. The key difference I have to get used to is looking for the clock in the top right rather than bottom right as it is on Windows. ^_^

Partitioning was the part that scared me, because of course, if you do it wrong then you lose all your data. Luckily with some help and a lot of research, I figured out how to do it (and I was still nervous). Now I have a working dual-boot laptop with Win XP and Ubuntu Linux.

Ubuntu is free, and moreover, you can get it shipped to you on CD for no charge--not even shipping and handling!

Other than that "newbie" perspective and first impression, I can't really say much. :)
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drangonsile
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Okay I'm sold thanks.
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Gornakle
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I'd be willing to try Ubuntu, but I'm completely new to any of this (although I did try a Red Hat Linux CD awhile ago). Anyone have any good tutorials/documentation they can recommend? :ermm:
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Fedora is what Windows users use when they want to use Linux. It's gui tools leave no room for real interaction and never force the user to do much outside of X.

Since these users never get under the hood of Linux and realize why it is such a powerful and extensible operating system, they never see Linux as much more than a decent desktop alternative. Fedora users are Windows users who are trying Linux. They never get past that step.

Ubuntu doesn't have a tool for configuring every last setting. Just most of the common ones. Eventually when running Ubuntu you will be forced to edit a config file, or compile something from source. You will be forced out of X to do something. You will get a glimpse at least of whats under this shiny Gnome desktop. You may even come to find out why you should want to run Linux, instead of wanting to run Linux just because you are less likely to get a virus or get stick with some spyware.

On that note, I think every Linux user, or potential Linux user should run Slackware for a few months. After a few months of tracking down every dependency and compiling almost everything form source, moving to Ubuntu feels like moving into your own little piece of heaven.

With what I learned from running Slackware, I can tackle any issue that arises on my Ubuntu system. With tools like apt, I have a lot less of those issues to deal with.

Should anyone go BACK to Fedora? No. If they feel they NEED to try something they should try Slackware. Coming back to Ubuntu from Slackware would be quite the homecoming. You would be coming home with some useful skills as well. :)
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Jory
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Just a little question about partitioning:
The way its being put on this forum, you have to do it.
And everybody needs to do it and fears dataloss when doing it.
But, if I would have a C:/ and a D:/ (and some more :P ) in windows, I already have partitions, right?
So then, no need to partition any more, right?
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The Virus
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I hate that we need Emulators just to play games, as I am a gamer, and I've had windows since november and yet it has not crashed.
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The Virus
June 13, 2005 04:12 PM
I hate that we need Emulators just to play games, as I am a gamer, and I've had windows since november and yet it has not crashed.

That's why you run a dual-boot and then boot into Windows if you need something that you like better on Windows. :yes:
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drangonsile
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Ordered my CD from ubuntu (10 so I can hand them out). Tachyon, how exactly did you partition your HD for a dual-boot?
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June 13, 2005 04:19 PM
The Virus
June 13, 2005 04:12 PM
I hate that we need Emulators just to play games, as I am a gamer, and I've had windows since november and yet it has not crashed.

That's why you run a dual-boot and then boot into Windows if you need something that you like better on Windows. :yes:

Sure, Linux isn't magic. Some things it can't do well (yet). I play America's Army, and it has a version FOR Linux... which runs better (I get better fps rates) in Linux!

Many games don't have Linux versions, and emulators aren't viable yet. I have a nice little Windows dual-boot setup for playing those :)

dragonsile, the Ubuntu CD can partition for you :) it can even resize existing partitions.
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drangonsile
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One last question what is gnome and what is KDE?
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Ben
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drangonsile
June 13, 2005 07:01 PM
One last question what is gnome and what is KDE?

Gnome and KDE are different display managers (like GUIs). Ubuntu comes with Gnome as default, but you can get KDE later through various means (one of which is installing "Kubuntu").

The screenshots available here are all in the Gnome theme:
http://www.ubuntulinux.org/screenshots/document_view

I don't have any KDE screenshots on hand, but I'm sure that Googling, going to Kubuntu will yield some or someone else can post them. :)
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Seth
June 13, 2005 01:12 PM
Ubuntu :w00t:

http://shipit.ubuntulinux.org <- Free CD, free shipping

Debian children rawk.

Ubuntu does rawk or you could just download it it would only take about 2 hours on a cabel/DSL line :r
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Das Ein
June 13, 2005 11:52 PM
Seth
June 13, 2005 01:12 PM
Ubuntu :w00t:

http://shipit.ubuntulinux.org <- Free CD, free shipping

Debian children rawk.

Ubuntu does rawk or you could just download it it would only take about 2 hours on a cabel/DSL line :r

*Christina downloads things at over 700 kbps at home on her cable connection :ermm:

:r
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