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Why does everyone hate Support Volunteers so Much?
Tweet Topic Started: May 4 2005, 06:39 PM (3,784 Views)
Daniel Talbot	May 9 2005, 10:52 PM Post #121
Semper Fidelis Posts: 3,188 Group: Members Member #22,149 Joined: June 21, 2004 I'm Browsing With Firefox	I dont hate them. But then again i do say that most of the new Support Volunteers need to learn more about IF and other IF related things. It sucks answering something right and someone else posting something else that makes no sense. and its all wrong.



Typhoon Omi	May 9 2005, 11:29 PM Post #122
[:Gerannium Knight:] Posts: 1,405 Group: Members Member #4,768 Joined: August 30, 2003	Yodaminch May 9, 2005 07:54 PM I disagree completely. 99.9 % of the time, those with support volunteer in the sig, gave bad support and/or made it clear they wanted to be on staff. I disagree completely with that. XP But, hey, your opinion.



Deleted User	May 10 2005, 12:45 AM Post #123
Deleted User	Again, if you read this entire topic, which most of you haven't, or the entire pinned support volunteer topic, which most of you haven't (or you just have horrid reading comprehension skills), it's been explained to death. But, since most of you still won't go back and read the rest of the posts, I'll go ahead and paste this: PhranK May 4, 2005 09:09 PM putting that label in your sig or title is misleading to those who don't know it's nothing official. Yes, there have been problems with newer members mistaking Support Volunteers as some sort of extension of the staff ever since somebody came up with the idea, just as we've had problems with other misleading things in sigs, custom member titles, and avatars, like people using our team icons, calling themselves "mod helpers" and far too many other variations for me to remember. We've disallowed most such things, but Support Volunteer is one of the more benign ones, and we do actually try to balance being too strict with not strict enough. But, then there's what Yodaminch said, which is strangely true, and not merely his opinion. The vast majority of those who choose to use the Support Volunteer title are the least capable of giving proper support and are the most likely to end up restricted. And those of us that are here several hours each day and have been for years know that's indisputable fact.
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Teh 1337	May 10 2005, 03:15 AM Post #124
Seth = My Fave Admin!!11 Posts: 203 Group: Members Member #45,072 Joined: February 17, 2005	If you give support,you are a Support Volunteer. Teh Alpha and Omega respects all teh staff here



Zero Resistance-ZNS	May 10 2005, 03:34 AM Post #125
eÜil Zero lÖrd Posts: 935 Group: Members Member #33,233 Joined: October 23, 2004	Teh Alpha and Omega May 10, 2005 02:15 AM If you give support,you are a Support Volunteer. Teh Alpha and Omega respects all teh staff here isn't that what i have been saying all this time? Zero Resistance on Page 3 Everyone that gives support=Support Volunteer. Why? Because, As stated before: We Volunteer to Support. Staff aren't paid to work. They volunteer thier services to help us. So, this IF Support Volunteer Crap is useless. I mean, you don't volunteer to help someone volunteering, don't you? Zero again still on page 3 If you go to give support, you volunteer to give support, thus, you are a support volunteer. me again same page Lothlómendil May 5, 2005 06:01 AM Zero Resistance May 5, 2005 06:52 AM If you go to give support, you volunteer to give support, thus, you are a support volunteer. There is adifference between giving your support and labeling yourself as a support vounteer. It just seems to us that by wearing the title in your member title or signature is a way of trying to impress us or something and it does the opposite. We want nice, helpful, normal individuals, not mass amounts of unhelpful users with a silly label. Oh. I think that labeling yourslef just makes you look desperate. I mean, I'm one. You;re one. The guy next to me is prorably one. But i don't shove it in my member title or sig. Zero R. Page 5 Maelroth May 5, 2005 07:15 AM Zero Resistance May 5, 2005 06:57 AM They want titiles tomake themselves proud that they are cool, and deifferent from the normal member base. What they don't know, is that weare all Support Volunteers. We arent all volunteers!.. Read what she said.. I aint no volunteer but i do give sometimes support Did you read my other posts? Do you get paid to give support? You volunteer. Thus, you are a Support Volunteer. What we hate are those that are 99.99% wrong and those that label themselves. get the idea?



Platyna	May 10 2005, 08:18 AM Post #126
Lady Lazarus Posts: 255 Group: Members Member #35,154 Joined: November 15, 2004	Wise people are accepting tittles not creating them (Unless they are playing some nice RPG). And those who are not wise can't give good support. IFS is not the only place where the people who got computer from his dad or mom are connected to the Internet and thinks that Internet belongs to them. I put "IF Support Volunteers" on the same shelf like usenet trolls, IRC kiddies - the people, IMHO, who should have Internet access forbidden by law. It is disgusting, especially for the people who remembers how the Internet were looking like in the time when most of these guys were sucking milk out their mom's breast. Then being a moderator were enjoyable, there were mature people around, not idiots who either treat you as a slave or are buttkissing to be moderators too. And, don't be naive, people who are enjoying stupid titles and blubbering nonsense wants moderator power, they don't give a sh** about the people because if they would care, they would do their best to provide a good and accurate answer which is actually helpful, not post whatever what just to be visible as a person who today answered 100 help requests, such people don't deserve any credits in my opinion. And there is a major difference between a staff member being marked and a kiddie who marks himself - today when various stupid people are playing with social engineering, are impersonating staff members and doing nasty things there are no other way to show people who is a real staff member than eye-kicking colours and big labels, "support volunteers" are confusing and abusing it. Mind I am talking about "support volunteers" not support volunteers. Stupidity deserves no respect. Regards.



alamir	May 11 2005, 02:43 AM Post #127
Electricity is just Organized Lightning. Posts: 883 Group: Members Member #15,646 Joined: March 30, 2004	I think we should have "IF Summary Volunteers" .....people who voluntarily give summaries of threads longer than 2 pages...and keep giving summaries of the entire post with every 2 pages. If anyone did this I'd pay more attention to THEIR posts more than others. Like that "When is s12 coming out thread?" .......that title is enough reason for me never to click on it...but now its at almost 14 pages...and I feel like I missed something....but there were no " IF Summary Volunteers" guide me. I don't think people can screw up summarizing......ur just repeating what u remember someone else said..... u might miss some main points.but some points are better than none.



Deleted User	May 11 2005, 02:52 AM Post #128
Deleted User	The secret is setting your "Number of posts to show for each topic page" to something really high, so all these crappy topics are only one or two pages.
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alamir	May 11 2005, 03:03 AM Post #129
Electricity is just Organized Lightning. Posts: 883 Group: Members Member #15,646 Joined: March 30, 2004	can you edit your last message so that it REMAINS a secret please? ....when it's 14 pages long though...all I get is MORE posts i don't want to read on my screen. I need IF Summary Volunteers. I hope people take initiative and this doesn't turn into one of those crazy ideas that I need to start by doing my own summarizing until people catch on... b/c then I'll start a revolution... no ducks..just Dr. Phils.



Platyna	May 12 2005, 04:58 AM Post #130
Lady Lazarus Posts: 255 Group: Members Member #35,154 Joined: November 15, 2004	Unfortunately that IF Summary Volunteers needs to have uber power to lock threads because some people (aka. post count goals hunters) are not compatible with such things. ;] Regards.



Scarlet-ZNS	May 12 2005, 09:46 PM Post #131
The World on a Silver Platter Posts: 52 Group: Members Member #9,779 Joined: December 16, 2003	Well I hate Support Volunteers because they get their own thread and I don't.



Captain Kam	May 12 2005, 09:59 PM Post #132
Custom member title Posts: 1,280 Group: Members Member #19,695 Joined: May 22, 2004	Scarlet May 12, 2005 05:46 PM Well I hate Support Volunteers because they get their own thread and I don't. How selfish. XD



Zero Resistance-ZNS	May 13 2005, 02:36 AM Post #133
eÜil Zero lÖrd Posts: 935 Group: Members Member #33,233 Joined: October 23, 2004	Scarlet May 12, 2005 08:46 PM Well I hate Support Volunteers because they get their own thread and I don't. Then make a new account and make a toipic called Why does everyone not like Scarlet so much? XP



Scarlet-ZNS	May 13 2005, 02:00 PM Post #134
The World on a Silver Platter Posts: 52 Group: Members Member #9,779 Joined: December 16, 2003	Why would anyone do that?



Stephen	May 13 2005, 03:06 PM Post #135
Twilight is upon me, and soon night must fall. Posts: 17,867 Group: Community Admin Member #1,011 Joined: April 3, 2003 I'm Browsing With Firefox My Board URL http://forums.yodaminch.com Latest Blog Entry Twilight is upon me, and soon night must fall.	Really this seems to keep going in circles. Basically, there are a few of you who aren't getting what we are saying. So let me break it down into facts. Fact: The people in Support Restricted or any other grey name, frequently gave incorrect support and of that amount 75% referred to themselves as support volunteers. Fact: Of those in grey, about 80 % have made it clear to the staff in one way or another that they wanted to be on the support team/admin. Fact: Hundreds of users have given support voluntarily. However as this is primarily a support forum, there isn't much else to do. Fact: Staff are volunteers. The blue guys volunteer their time to answer dozens of support tickets and or topics. Fact: The only real volunteers here are the staff. The rest of you don't have to be here and can choose not to help at all. Then again so can we, but then we're asked to resign As I said before, calling yourselves volunteers is ridiculous. You are helpers. And helpers only. Call yourselves Support Helpers as that is what you are.



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