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Who here still uses MP3?; Nearly Extinct Format...
Topic Started: Jun 27 2005, 04:33 AM (1,147 Views)
dbzlotrfan
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and they can't get off tune (as much as midi [i think]) or can they?
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Sirin
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June 27, 2005 02:15 PM
MP3 is not lossless compression, some data is altered or lost. An MP3 will sound different than the original recording.

Of course. Those are lossy formats used to save space. Apple Lossless would pump-jack you at an average of 40MB per song, but it remains at half the space of CDs, maintaining full quality of the CD.

http://images.apple.com/itunes/images/impo...ess04272004.gif

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MP4 = Music Video.


MP4 is not just used for videos. The Audio Format representing MPEG Layer 4 is AAC (Advanced Audio Codec), which has one of the most advanced audio compression techniques in the world. The only difference I noticed was the sound was a little more quiet than the CD (at 128kbps).

http://images.apple.com/itunes/images/impo...aac04272004.gif

However, I have nothing against MP3. If you need to import your songs for a widespread of digital players, MPEG Layer 3 is the way to go.

But however, these two formats were created by the same guys. The creators of the MPEG (Moving Picture Experts Group) said it themselves, AAC (MPEG Layer 4) is an successor to MP3, with much more advanced coding.

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Maelroth
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I still use MP3 also LP because of the :wub: sound
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dbzlotrfan
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how the heck can you even play mp4's? when even I download some I just delete them/can't play them. how the heck would I play them? some songs I like I can only find in mp4 format.
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Sirin
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dbzlotrfan
June 27, 2005 02:43 PM
how the heck can you even play mp4's? when even I download some I just delete them/can't play them.  how the heck would I play them? some songs I like I can only find in mp4 format.

It depends on what media player you're using. Which one do you use?

NOTE: Windows Media Player 10 and below have absolutely NO support for AAC (because Bill Gates wants you to follow the ways of the WMA), so if you're using WMP, that may be your problem. ;)

I recommend Apple iTunes + Apple Quicktime. Apple has taken advantage of the AAC format. ;)

http://www.itunes.com/
http://www.quicktime.com/



Some Other AAC supported Players Include:
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RealPlayer - http://www.real.com/
WinAmp - http://www.winamp.com/
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Das
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I use AAC and WAV.
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Luke6006
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MP3'S are going to be around for way long, there's newish mp3 players out anyawy.
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MP3 is gonna be around for a long long time mainly because its easy to use, easy to convert into and out of, and doesnt vary TOO much compared to a raw wav file, and its efficiently small.

although not a lossless codec, nor the smallest file type in the world, it serves its purpose to a croud who really isnt to crittical on there music sounding perfect.

now on the next note. a wma file, although slightly smaller is a garbage file anyway u look at it. wma's are basicly the lowest rung of acceptable audio codecs. the reason AAC's are so nice is because they are lossless and are able to compress smaller than MP3's. the only problem is that the majority of digital audio users, are unaware of AAC or its effectiveness. eventually it will rise in popularity but due to the vast library of mp3's that currently exist, it shall eventually be hand in hand with mp3.

MP4's are DVD quality audio or video and are saved as MP4a or MP4v. audio and video respectively. MUCH larger files and damn near perfect 5.1 and 7.1 channel sound.

yes there will always be audio sources like ogg, rma, flac and stuff but i doubt that they will ever become the new mp3 or aac.

haha lets all convert to ATRAC-3!
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Sirin
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June 27, 2005 04:03 PM
the reason AAC's are so nice is because they are lossless and are able to compress smaller than MP3's.  the only problem is that the majority of digital audio users, are unaware of AAC or its effectiveness. eventually it will rise in popularity but due to the vast library of mp3's that currently exist, it shall eventually be hand in hand with mp3.

MP4's are DVD quality audio or video and are saved as MP4a or MP4v. audio and video respectively.  MUCH larger files and damn near perfect 5.1 and 7.1 channel sound.

yes there will always be audio sources like ogg, rma, flac and stuff but i doubt that they will ever become the new mp3 or aac.

Just to correct you, AACs are lossy but they sound like lossless :) . Yes, they are that good.

You're right on the popularity. Just ask someone what the newest type of music players are, and most likely you'll get MP3.

AACs at 128kbps are known to sound like MP3s at 256kbps, so with AAC, you save space on your hard drive, and your iPod (which is one of the most popular players in the world and it also supports AAC too). iPod comes with iTunes and Quicktime, which the default option is AAC 128kbps, so if you have an iPod with iTunes and you've never changed any of the importing options, then most likely you have AACs on your HD and iPod. ;)
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Can you covert your MP3 files to AAC using iTunes?
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Sirin
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June 27, 2005 04:24 PM
Can you covert your MP3 files to AAC using iTunes?

Most definitely.

Right-Click on desired song -> Convert Selection to AAC

Just 2 clicks, that's all you need. :)
Then watch as iTunes quickly converts the song to AAC.
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If you care about audio quality and listen to a lot of electronic music, avoid MPEG-4 AAC, particularly if you use bit rates below 160kbps. iTunes MP3 at 160kbps is better than AAC at 128kbps if you can afford the extra file size. If you really want CD quality, you'll need to use Ogg Vorbis or LAME MP3 encoding.

If encoding speed or iPod compatibility is important to you, use AAC--but don't go below 160kbps.

I am disappointed that yet again, Apple revved the iPod but didn't bother to implement Vorbis decode. I won't be buying one.

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I use iTunes. .wma files are easily convertible, and the ipod pwns everything else I've seen or used, so I see no reason to stick with mp3s.
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clarinetplayer
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uh well... i dont have enough money to get one yet x_x but i still have my cd player with a radio xD
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Naota-kun
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I actually don't have enough money, either... all of my relatives pitched in to buy me one for my b-day. Wasn't that nice? :lol:
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