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Microsoft to make an IE7
Tweet Topic Started: Feb 16 2005, 05:14 PM (1,653 Views)
Matthew	Feb 16 2005, 05:14 PM Post #1
Member Posts: 5,169 Group: Members Member #18,161 Joined: May 4, 2004	Hahaaaa... Microsoft announced they're gonna make an Internet Explorer version 7 this morning apparently. Methinks it's a reaction to Firefox stealing users away from them Because i'm too lazy, here's my blog post I made about it: 'Microsoft to make an IE7' - My blog This morning news broke out that Microsoft is going to release an Internet Explorer version 7. I first saw this on SpreadFirefox. One of the SFX team blogged about it here. The post about it on MSDNs own IEBlog is here. As said in the SFX article, I can only wonder: Is Microsoft just reacting to Firefox and other alternative browsers? Think about it, Microsoft said that IE6 is going to be the last Internet Explorer or something, that theyd stop development and only do security updates on it, thats what ive always thought. Yet all of a sudden, they announce IE7. It must be because of Firefox and other alternative browsers. As you probably know, Firefox has took away a lot of the market share from IE, around 5%? So what will be in the next IE then? So far, they havent really announced a feature set as such. And theyve said nothing about making it more standards compliant. A lot of us shouldnt really care, because most people use Firefox now anyway, but to people like me that develop sites and blogs, it is important. At least whether or not it will be more compliant to web standards is. I absolutely hate it when I make a design for this and it breaks in IE, so thats why if IE will be standards-compliant or not matters. If it is, that would be great. Unfortunately a large percentage of the internet still use IE, so whenever anyone develops a site theres still IE users to account for. If IE can become standards compliant we wouldnt have to worry about sites breaking the minute an IE user visits them. Apparently sometime in summer theyll be releasing BETA versions, and a final release will be at the end of the year. But. It will be for Windows XP SP2 users only. Haha. So users of WXP SP1 or lower cant get it? It seems so. All them security fixes and bugfixes will be missed out on by users of WXP SP1 or lower. Pretty stubborn if you ask me, people have to upgrade to MSs latest OS if they want to keep up-to-date with a Windows Component, perhaps a very vital one at that. Nice. rolleyes More reason to use Firefox or another browser, eh? So it kindof matters and doesnt to me personally. I dont care because I dont use it, but I do because like many other people that make sites/blogs like this, care about if it will be more compliant with W3C standards. Hmm. One things for sure though, its almost certainly a reaction to Firefox and other alternative browsers, in my opinion anyway I first heard about this on SpreadFirefox. And here is MSDNs own IEBlog post about it So what do you all think about this?



Alcario	Feb 16 2005, 05:24 PM Post #2
"Not a Japanese Pigtailed Idol Meganekko" Posts: 6,142 Group: Members Member #2,298 Joined: June 8, 2003	matt_D February 16, 2005 01:14 PM So what do you all think about this? meh. :yawn: Microsoft should just make a new browser instead of updating IE. That's all I have to say.



Peachy	Feb 16 2005, 05:35 PM Post #3
:P Posts: 1,618 Group: Members Member #24,147 Joined: July 12, 2004	I'd prefer to use a browser by MS since most of the world designs sites compatible with it. Often I have to switch browsers cos Firefox doesn't like the site. Well a Firefox browser that can deal with the features IE has would be better



Zach	Feb 16 2005, 05:46 PM Post #4
Missjayness Posts: 1,814 Group: Members Member #5,598 Joined: September 20, 2003	Peachy February 16, 2005 04:35 PM I'd prefer to use a browser by MS since most of the world designs sites compatible with it. Often I have to switch browsers cos Firefox doesn't like the site. Well a Firefox browser that can deal with the features IE has would be better Do you know why? Because IE's rendering engine. Designers have to make it compatible with IE or else they lose a possible 75% of traffic. (75% is IE users) The more users that use firefox, the less people will use IE, thus designers will think less and less of designing with IE in mind, so then more sites would be compatible in firefox.



Peachy	Feb 16 2005, 06:33 PM Post #5
:P Posts: 1,618 Group: Members Member #24,147 Joined: July 12, 2004	deat February 16, 2005 09:46 PM Peachy February 16, 2005 04:35 PM I'd prefer to use a browser by MS since most of the world designs sites compatible with it. Often I have to switch browsers cos Firefox doesn't like the site. Well a Firefox browser that can deal with the features IE has would be better Do you know why? Because IE's rendering engine. Designers have to make it compatible with IE or else they lose a possible 75% of traffic. (75% is IE users) The more users that use firefox, the less people will use IE, thus designers will think less and less of designing with IE in mind, so then more sites would be compatible in firefox. I know it's down to popularity, but there are still some features that Firefox doesn't have that would be nice, like alt tags. The biggest problem tho, is the inexperienced folks that get the net and straight away start using the brwoser that came with their computer, since they don't know about any other, or what makes the others better



Mark G.	Feb 16 2005, 06:37 PM Post #6
If happiness is contagious, I must be immune. Posts: 201 Group: Members Member #26,709 Joined: August 8, 2004	Sounds intresting, but I wub FF better.;)



Paper	Feb 16 2005, 06:51 PM Post #7
Member Posts: 2,111 Group: Members Member #19,225 Joined: May 17, 2004	It won't effect me one bit



Logik	Feb 16 2005, 07:30 PM Post #8
it's not sparkly enough Posts: 7,928 Group: Members Member #28,312 Joined: August 25, 2004	Will it matter? Microsoft thinks they can patch up all their security holes, but they can't. And do they have tabbed browsing? Noo....



Zach	Feb 16 2005, 07:57 PM Post #9
Missjayness Posts: 1,814 Group: Members Member #5,598 Joined: September 20, 2003	Logik February 16, 2005 06:30 PM Will it matter? Microsoft thinks they can patch up all their security holes, but they can't. And do they have tabbed browsing? Noo.... I bet they'll add it, but then it'll flop because of a major security hole.



Gogf	Feb 16 2005, 08:01 PM Post #10
Indescribable Posts: 2,068 Group: Members Member #15,268 Joined: March 24, 2004	deat February 16, 2005 06:57 PM Logik February 16, 2005 06:30 PM Will it matter? Microsoft thinks they can patch up all their security holes, but they can't. And do they have tabbed browsing? Noo.... I bet they'll add it, but then it'll flop because of a major security hole. It will probably have some way to allow Active X to open new tabs without your consent :rolleyes:. My parents still use IE. I can't convince them to change to Firefox, so it will effect them.



Zach	Feb 16 2005, 08:03 PM Post #11
Missjayness Posts: 1,814 Group: Members Member #5,598 Joined: September 20, 2003	Gogf February 16, 2005 07:01 PM It will probably have some way to allow Active X to open new tabs without your consent :rolleyes:. My parents still use IE. I can't convince them to change to Firefox, so it will effect them. I got my dad to switch, and he loves it (obviously) But my mom still doesn't want to switch. :/



korn_mosher_4life-ZNS	Feb 16 2005, 08:08 PM Post #12
the korn mosher 4life Posts: 608 Group: Members Member #6,584 Joined: October 18, 2003	deat February 16, 2005 06:57 PM Logik February 16, 2005 06:30 PM Will it matter? Microsoft thinks they can patch up all their security holes, but they can't. And do they have tabbed browsing? Noo.... I bet they'll add it, but then it'll flop because of a major security hole. Tabbed borwsing is a security hole anyways.....Can't want for IE7....as for just making a new bowser....IE7 would be...hence it's 7 not 6. and has anyone here tried IE6 with SP2? It is 10 times better.



Ben	Feb 16 2005, 08:09 PM Post #13
Quantum-locked when observed. Posts: 37,594 Group: Support Team Member #25,756 Joined: July 29, 2004	Peachy February 16, 2005 05:33 PM deat February 16, 2005 09:46 PM Peachy February 16, 2005 04:35 PM I'd prefer to use a browser by MS since most of the world designs sites compatible with it. Often I have to switch browsers cos Firefox doesn't like the site. Well a Firefox browser that can deal with the features IE has would be better Do you know why? Because IE's rendering engine. Designers have to make it compatible with IE or else they lose a possible 75% of traffic. (75% is IE users) The more users that use firefox, the less people will use IE, thus designers will think less and less of designing with IE in mind, so then more sites would be compatible in firefox. I know it's down to popularity, but there are still some features that Firefox doesn't have that would be nice, like alt tags. The biggest problem tho, is the inexperienced folks that get the net and straight away start using the brwoser that came with their computer, since they don't know about any other, or what makes the others better Um . . . actually, it's IE that's wrong. According to W3C specs, ALT attributes should only display when an image cannot be displayed. That's why it's 'alternative' text. It's used if the image path is invalid, or for text-only browsers. If you want an alt-like behaviour to occur when the mouse hovers over an image, use the TITLE attribute. If people designed their sites to comply with W3C specifications, then they would not have the problem of render errors in Firefox. Speaking from painful experience, it can be extremely difficult to fix errors with IE, but once you've butchered the site, cursed Microsoft, and gotten the help of wonderful people to fix it, it is not hard to design a website that looks good in every browser. EDIT . . . how is tabbed browsing a security hole? :blink: It's just like having multiple instances of the browser open . . . only not. It reduces your CPU load because you don't have multiple instances of the program running. Less clutter, more order. Must have . . . order . . . mmmm.



Gogf	Feb 16 2005, 08:18 PM Post #14
Indescribable Posts: 2,068 Group: Members Member #15,268 Joined: March 24, 2004	Tachyon February 16, 2005 07:09 PM EDIT . . . how is tabbed browsing a security hole? :blink: It's just like having multiple instances of the browser open . . . only not. It reduces your CPU load because you don't have multiple instances of the program running. Less clutter, more order. Must have . . . order . . . mmmm. It was supposed to be a joke saying that Microsoft would make even that a security whole. I think.



Zach	Feb 16 2005, 08:23 PM Post #15
Missjayness Posts: 1,814 Group: Members Member #5,598 Joined: September 20, 2003	Quote: I think.



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